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-<h1>Math, Science, and Philosophy</h1>
-<p>This document is still in discussion and may be improved over time.</p>
-<p>Article ID: 10</p>
-
-
-<p>Utilities developed in mathematics are often used to apply theories
-of the sciences, such as the use of basic arithmetic, calculus, complex
-analysis, and everything in between in empirical/experimental sciences
-such as physics. We often take for granted that mathematics as we know
-it today would work in the sciences. However, considering my impression
-of math as formally being a creation and natural sciences being mostly
-observant, it is worth questioning the linkage between these subjects,
-and whether our use of mathematics, especially in the prediction of
-theories of physics, is logically linked to the physics itself, or just
-so happens to a coincidence which we ought to explain.</p>
-<p>This article attempts to address these questions, but cannot provide
-a full answer, for which extensive research would be required which time
-does not allow for. Rather, this shall be treated as a brief
-brain-teaser, which discussions may evolve from the text itself, or from
-the various editorial footnotes and bugs. I would like to, afterwards,
-complete this article and make it comprehensive and structured, but I’ll
-need ideas from the discussion.</p>
-<h1 id="invented-or-discovered">Invented or discovered?<span
-id="invented-or-discovered" label="invented-or-discovered"></span></h1>
-<p>Initially, it feels like mathematics is a pure invention of the human
-mind. Formal definitions of mathematical systems (albeit unsuccessful in
-creating the complete and consistent system intended) such as that
-presented in <span class="smallcaps">Principia Mathematica</span> do not
-refer to any tangible objects and are purely conceptual. Deriving
-theorems from axioms and other theorems, applying general theorems to
-specific conditions, etc. are all, formally, abstract activities with
-little reference to the physical world.</p>
-<p>However, humans do not truly invent ideas out of pure thought. The
-basic building blocks of our analytical cognition, which may be in some
-sense considered "axioms" of our perspective of the world, result from
-us observing the world around us, finding patterns, which then evolve
-into abstract ideas. Consider the possibility that the formation of
-numbers as a concept in mathematics results from humans using primitive
-ideas that resemble numbers to count and record enumerations of discrete
-objects. Then as people had the need to express non-integer amounts,
-concepts such as fractions and decimals (or primitive ideas and
-representations thereof), were born. Previously <i>discrete</i>
-concepts, numbers, are now used to represent values on
-<i>continuous</i> spectrums, such as volume, mass, etc. But then
-consider an alternative world where we are jellyfish swimming through
-blank water: although this concept of volume is applicable to blank
-water, it is arguable whether the numeric representation and thus the
-concept of numerical volume would exist in the first place with the
-absence of discrete objects. This is an example on how human sense
-perception affects the process for which we invent concepts in
-mathematics, even if the formal definition thereof does not refer to
-tangible objects, not to mention how many mathematical constructs such
-as calculus were specifically created to solve physics problems but is
-defined in terms of pure math.</p>
-<p>Ultimately, even formally defined axiomatic systems have their axioms
-based on human intuition, which in turn is a result of emperical
-perspective observing of the natural, physical world.</p>
-<p>Additionally, let’s take the time to appreciate how well often
-mathematical concepts, formally defined by human intuition and logic,
-map to experimentally verifiable physical concepts. This further
-suggests how natural sciences has an effect on mathematics. (See
-Section <a href="#applicability-in-science" data-reference-type="ref"
-data-reference="applicability-in-science">[applicability-in-science]</a>
-for details.)</p>
-<p>The way I like to think about whther math is an invention or a
-discovery is: The system of mathematics is formally an invention, but
-the intuition that led to the axioms, and what theorems we think about
-and prove, are the result of human discovery. There are both elements to
-it, and a dichotomous classification would be inappropriate.</p>
-<h1 id="applicability-in-science">Applicability in Science<span
-id="applicability-in-science"
-label="applicability-in-science"></span></h1>
-<p>Despite how mathematics was likely inspired by tangible perception,
-the vast majority of modern formal mathematical constructs are defined
-theoretically. In fact, as seen with the use of complex Hilbert space in
-quantum mechanics, mathematical concepts are sometimes developed much
-earlier than a corresponding physics theory which utilizes it
-extensively. It is impressive how formal creations of humans’ intuition
-for beauty in pure math has such a mapping and reflection in the real
-world and how physics tends to formalize emperical information in a
-concise and rationalized manner.</p>
-<p>This naturally leads us to a question: How is math used in
-experimental/emperical sciences? Why? Is that use consistent and based
-logically, or would it possibly be buggy?</p>
-<p>I believe that mathematics has two main roles in physics. The first
-is calculations, often as an abstraction of experimental experience into
-a general formula, which is then applied to specific questions. With the
-knowledge that <span
-class="math inline"><i>F</i> = <i>m</i><i>a</i></span> and that
-<span
-class="math inline"><i>a</i> = 10 m/s<sup>2</sup>, <i>m</i> = 1 kg</span>,
-we conclude that <span class="math inline"><i>F</i> = 10 N</span>. But
-many times this involves or implies the second role of math in physics,
-because calculations depend on corresponding concepts, and sometimes the
-mathematical utilities themselves are developed from physics but are
-defined in terms of pure math (such as calculus): physicists analogize
-mathematical concepts with tangible physical objects and physics
-concepts, and think about the physical world in a mathematically
-abstract way. For example, the <span class="math inline">SU(3)</span>
-group which finds it origins in the beauties of pure math (group theory
-is inherently about symmetry), is used extensively in the physics of
-elementary particles to represent particle spin.<a href="#fn1"
-class="footnote-ref" id="fnref1" role="doc-noteref"><sup>1</sup></a> But
-for the latter of these use-cases, I am skeptical. Mathematics as we
-know it is incomplete (Gödel’s first incompleteness theorem, in summary,
-proves that any system of mathematics with Peano Arithmetic cannot prove
-all true statements in its own system), possibly inconsistent (Gödel’s
-second incompleteness theorem, in summary, proves that any system of
-mathematics with Peano Arithmetic cannot prove its own consistency), and
-is somewhat unpredictable (Turing’s halting problem, basically saying
-that it is impossible to, without running the algorithm itself, predict
-whether a general algorithm would halt or would run forever, and thus
-there is no general algorithm to predict whether an algorithm will halt
-in finite time). We haven’t found major loopholes for inconsistency yet,
-but it is astonishing howmathematics, a system of such theoretical
-imperfection, is used in every part of physics, not just for its
-calculations but also for representation of ideas down to the basic
-level. I find this to be uncanny. What if the physics theories we derive
-are erroneous because of erroneous mathematical systems or concepts? I
-believe that part of the answer is "experiments", to return to the
-empirical nature of, well, empirical sciences, and see if the theories
-actually predict the results. But there are tons of logistical issues
-that prevent us from doing so, not to mention the inherent downside to
-experiments: a limited number of attempts cannot derive a general-case
-theory (take the Borwein integral as an example: a limited number of
-experiments may easily conclude that it’s always <span
-class="math inline"><i>π</i></span> while it’s actually less than
-<span class="math inline"><i>π</i></span> after the 15th
-iteration). So then, we turn to logical proof. But then because
-mathematical logic is incomplete, we are not guaranteed to be able to
-prove a given conjecture, which may be otherwise indicated by
-experiments, to be correct.</p>
-<p>Note that I am not arguing that physics derives its concepts from
-mathematics; I believe that physics has chosen the part of math that it
-believes to be helpful for use therein. However, these have strange and
-unforseeable implications.</p>
-<p>The addition of mathematical concepts into physics doesn’t only bring
-the maths we want to bring over, it brings all relevant definitions,
-axioms, logic, proofs, theorems, etc. all along with it. Once we
-"assign" that a physical entity is "represented" by a "corresponding
-concept" in mathematics, we can only abide by the development thereof.
-So although physics originally isn’t guided by mathematics, the act of
-choosing the part of math that’s useful in physics puts physics under
-the iron grip of mathematical logic, which is inconsistent and
-potentially incomplete, as contrary to the realistic and observable
-nature that physics is supposed to be.</p>
-<p>I had a brief chat with Mr. Coxon and he aclled how the existence of
-neutrinos were predicted "mathematically" before they were
-experimentally discovered physically. I do not know the history of all
-this, but Mr. Coxon said that physicists
-looked at a phenomenon (I believe that was beta decay) and went like:
-"where did that missing energy go"? and proposed that there was a
-particle called a neutrino that fills in the missing gap.
-(Alternatively, they could have challenged the conservation of energy,
-which leads us to the topic of "why do we find it so hard to challenge
-theories that seem beautiful, and why does conservation and symmetry
-seem beautiful", but let’s get back on topic...) Then twnety years later
-neutrinos were "discovered" physically by experiments. Mr. Coxon said
-that it looked like that mathematics predicted and in some resepct
-"guided" physics. Personally I believe that this isn’t a purely
-"mathematical" pre-discovery and it’s more of a "conservation of energy,
-a physics theory was applied, and math was used as a utility to find
-incompletenesses in our understanding of particles." I think that I’ve
-heard (but cannot recall at the moment) two cases where conceptual
-analysis in "pure math" perfectly corresponds to the phenomenon in
-physics discovered later which again makes me question whether math
-played some role in the experiment-phenomenon-discovery cycle of
-physics. I guess I need more examples.</p>
-<p>I remember that Kant argued that human knowledge is human perception
-and its leading into rational thought and reason. To me this sounds like
-the development of math, but in some sense this could also apply to
-physics, though I still believe that physics theories even if reasoned
-require experimental "testing" (not "verification") for it to be
-acceptable in terms of physics. THis leaves me in a situation where none
-of the ways of knowing that I can understand, even if used together,
-could bring about an absolutely correct[tm] theory of physics. See,
-reason is flawed because logic may fail, not to mention when we are
-literally trying to define/decribe novel physics concepts/entities and
-there aren’t any definitions to begin with to even start with reasoning
-and all we could do is using intuition in discovery. (Pattern finding in
-intuitive concepts would require formalization to be somewhat
-acceptable, but not absolutely ground-standing, in the realm of reason.)
-And then, experiments are flawed because errors will always exist in the
-messey real world (and if we do simulations that’s just falling back to
-our existing understanding of logical analysis). So now we have no
-single way, or combination of methods, to accurately verify the
-correctness of a physics theory, which by definition of physical is
-representative of the real world, basically saying that "we will never
-know how things work in the real world". That feels uncanny. Also, how
-do I even make sense of a physics theory to be "correct"? It’s arguable
-whether any physics theory could be correct in the first place. If Kant
-is correct then all our theories of physics is ultimately perception and
-having biology in the form of human observations in the absolute and
-hard-core feeling of physics is so weird.</p>
-<h1 id="random-ideas">Random Ideas</h1>
-<p>Here are some of my random ideas that I haven’t sorted into
-fully-explained paragraphs due to the lack of time to do so. However, I
-believe that the general point is here, and I would appreciate a
-discussion about these topics.</p>
-<ul>
-<li><p>How is it possible to know <i>anything</i> in physics?
-Experiments can be inaccurate or conducted wrongly or can be affected by
-physical properties completely unknown to us, and mathematical proof can
-be erroneous because of systematic flaws and/or false assumptions about
-the representation of physical entities in math.</p></li>
-<li><p>Gödel’s theorems only tell us that there <i>are</i> true
-statements that we cannot prove, and there <i>may be</i>
-inconsistencies. My intuition suggests that these statements and
-inconsistencies would be in the highly theoretical realm of math, which
-if accurately identified and are avoided in physics, would not pose a
-threat to applied mathematics in physics.</p>
-<p>However, it shall be noted that any single inconsistency may be
-abused to prove any statement, if consistencies were to be found in
-math: Suppose that we know a statement <span
-class="math inline"><i>A</i></span> (i. e. physics is squishy) is both
-true and false. Thus, <span class="math inline"><i>A</i> = 1</span>
-and <span class="math inline"><i>A</i> = 0</span> are both true. Then,
-take a random statement <span class="math inline"><i>B</i></span>
-(let’s say "Z likes humanities"). Thus we have <span
-class="math inline"><i>A</i> + <i>B</i> = 1</span> where <span
-class="math inline">+</span> is a boolean "or" operator because <span
-class="math inline"><i>A</i> = 1</span> and <span
-class="math inline">1 + <i>x</i> = 1</span> (<span
-class="math inline"><i>x</i></span> is any statement). But then
-because <span class="math inline"><i>A</i> = 0</span>, thus <span
-class="math inline">0 + <i>B</i> = 1</span>, which means that <span
-class="math inline"><i>B</i></span> must be 1 (if <span
-class="math inline"><i>B</i></span> is zero, then <span
-class="math inline">0 + 0 = 0</span>). Thus, if we can prove that
-"physics is squishy" and "physics is not squishy" (without differences
-in definition), then we can literally prove that "Z likes
-humanities". Other from not defining subjective things like "squishy"
-and "is" (in terms of psychology), we can’t get around this easily, and
-everything would be provable, which would not be fun for
-physics.</p></li>
-</ul>
-<h1 class="unnumbered" id="bugs">Bugs</h1>
-<ul>
-<li><p>No citations present for referenced materials. Thus, this article
-is not fit for publication, and shall not be considered an authoritative
-resource. The addition of references will massively improve the status
-of this article.</p></li>
-<li><p>The ideas are a bit messy. The structure needs to be reorganized.
-Repetition is prevalent and must be reduced to a minimum.</p></li>
-</ul>
-<h1 class="unnumbered" id="acknowledgements">Acknowledgements</h1>
-<p>Multiple documents were consulted in the writing of this article,
-which sometimes simply summarizes ideas already expressed by others.
-Please see the attached reading materials for details. Works of Eugene
-Wigner were especially helpful.</p>
-<p>Contributors include many YK Pao School students and faculty.
-Insightful conversations with other students, such as MuonNeutrino_,
-have given me great inspiration in the ideas
-expressed in this article and discussions are still ongoing. For privacy
-reasons other names aren’t listed, but I would be happy to put names on
-here at request/suggestion.</p>
-<section id="footnotes" class="footnotes footnotes-end-of-document"
-role="doc-endnotes">
-<hr />
-<ol>
-<li id="fn1"><p>I’m not exactly sure about this, though, I can only
-comprehend it slightly superficially as I don't have much experience in
-particle physics or in special unitary groups, yet.
-<a
-href="#fnref1" class="footnote-back" role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
-</ol>
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